Joseph Knight said that Joseph used the Urim and Thummim in a hat to translate the plates.

Date
1847
Type
Manuscript
Source
Joseph Knight, Sr.
LDS
Hearsay
Holograph
Direct
Reference

Joseph Knight Sr., Reminiscence, Circa 1835-1847, MS 3470, Church History Library

Scribe/Publisher
Joseph Knight, Sr.
People
Joseph Knight, Sr., Joseph Smith, Jr.
Audience
General Public
Transcription

Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes then he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then <that would go away> the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated.

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