Wilford Woodruff records Orson Pratt having a dispute with Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball concerning the nature of God.

Date
Sep 23, 1860
Type
Personal Journal / Diary
Source
Wilford Woodruff
LDS
Hearsay
Holograph
Direct
Reference

Wilford Woodruff, Journal, September 23, 1860, Wilford Woodruff journal, 1860 January-1865 October, Wilford Woodruff journals and papers, 1828-1898, MS 1352, Church History Library

Scribe/Publisher
Wilford Woodruff
People
William H. Hooper, Wilford Woodruff, Orson Pratt, George Q. Cannon, Erastus Snow, Heber C. Kimball
Audience
N/A
Transcription

At the Close of the meeting The Presidency & Twelve met the missionaries at the Historian office. Several were Blessed. Among the Number was O Pratt Erastus Snow G Q Cannon, & Wm. H Hooper after which we repaired to the prayer room, whare we had a vary interesting meeting.

The subject of Orson Pratt Came up again Concerning his fals doctrin. Presidet Kimball wished him to make satisfaction to Presidet Young But Presidet Young said he did not wish him to make any acknowledgements to him. Brother Pratt was strangely Constituted. He had acquired a good deal of knowledge upon many things but in other things He was one of the most ignorant men he ever saw in his life. He was full of integrity & would lie down & have his head Cut off for me or his religin if necessary but he will never see his Error untill he goes into the spirit world. Then he will say Brother Brigham how foolish I was.

Now Brother Pratt thinks that he and all the Gods will be learning for many millions of years but by & by will know all things & all will know it alike & that will be the End of their Exhaltations & knowledge. He Cannot see the folly of forming this opinion here in the flesh & in his ignorance. But a thousand years hence he will see the folly of it. I will hold on to Brother Pratt & all these my Brethren of the Twelve notwithstanding all their sins, folley, & weaknesses untill I met with them in my Fathers kingdom to part no more because they love God and are full of integrity.

Brother Pratt said I do not believe as Brother Brigham & Brother Kimball do in some points of doctrin & they do not wish me to acknowled[ge] to a thing that I do not believe. Brother Brigham Said No you Cannot See the truth in this matter until you get into the spirit world.

Brother Brigham spake vary Comforting words to the 12. He said his love for them was far above wom[a?]n & I wish you Could all say it. Brother Wells Prayed & John Taylor was mouth. W Woodruff was appointed a committee to fit out the missionaries.

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